How Would Juan Manuel Marquez Do Against Floyd Mayweather Jr. Now? Sadly, Bad.

So let’s get to the meat part of what the boxing forums have been buzzing about in the past couple of days.

Yes, the main topic is Manny Pacquiao’s recent loss to Juan Manuel Marquez. Understandably, this is the biggest shocker in a very long time. Well at least on such a level. Amongst those, there is another topic that has gained some popularity, and it is whether Mayweather Jr. should give Maruqez a rematch.

This is a rough one. Technically, now that Marquez knocked out Pacquiao, he does deserve to fight, well pretty much anyone he wishes. The question is: would the result of their second fight, be different from the first?

I think that Marquez is amazing, and in my opinion, is he one of the top technical virtuosos in boxing history. Still, I just can’t see it. Connecting against a high volume sloppy puncher like Pacquiao is one thing, but trying to land a shot on an incredibly quick defensive counterpuncher like Mayweather Jr. is another.

Manny makes a ton of mistakes; Mayweather Jr. makes none.

Pacquiao relies on power and speed; Mayweather Jr. on speed and accuracy.

Manny’s abilities slightly change throughout the fight; Mayweather Jr. stays consistent, composed and focused.

Marquez will simply be fighting a much faster, bigger, smarter, and more accurate boxing twin. It is nearly impossible to beat a better self, and if Marquez somehow ends up in the ring with Mayweather Jr. again, he will lose the fight, by landslide.


Pacquiao Bitter About His Loss: “I wanted action. I wanted to trade the big shots. Then he got lucky.”

After the first three fights against Marquez, Pacquiao thought that there was absolutely nothing that he needed to prove to Marquez or general the boxing public. He thought that his two victories were solid, and that the drama that surrounded those victories was artificially blown up by the unreasonable Marquez fans.

Still after being pressured by the fans, and after suffering a controversial, later reversed loss to Timothy Bradley, Manny had decided to eliminate the doubt from the minds of all the fans by giving Marquez another fight.

Now, after suffering the biggest loss of his career, it looks as thought Manny may now be in favor of yet another, fifth bout against his long time foe.

“Yes, I still can,” said Pacquiao when asked whether he would fight again.

“That’s sports. You win some, you lose some. If you don’t want to lose, don’t fight. Let’s accept it. Marquez caught me flush on the chin. Like right on the chin. If only he hit me in the jaw I knew I could get up like the first knockdown. But it’s different when it’s on the chin. I remembered hitting the canvas hard,” continues Manny.

“But let’s accept the loss. Marquez deserved the victory. He sneaked in a punch. I was wrong doing that double-fake. I lunged. It’s like going head on with that right straight. I ran smack into it.”

Giving Marquez the deserved credit, Pacquiao was still a little bit bitter about the result: “His nose was broken. He was breathing heavily because of his broken nose. I could hear him breath. I was told his corner was already giving him one more round. I would have finished him off in rounds seven or eight. I was feeling good. I felt fine. There was no sign of the cramps that have bugged me in the previous fights starting in the fourth round or so. What a waste. I was warming up. “Did you notice each time the bell rings, I wanted to rush to him? The referee kept holding on to me. I wanted action. I wanted to trade the big shots. Then he got lucky,” concluded Pacquiao.

Here we go, Mr. Humble is not happy with a loss, and tries to ease the pain by finding illegitimate reasons for why this was a fluke. Whatever it was, it sent Manny to the canvas like a 2×4. He got knocked out, and there is nothing that he can say to retreat from that outcome. Was he winning the fight? No. Of course neither was Marquez.

The fact that Pacquiao is confident that had this fight gone a few more rounds he would have finished Marquez is bad news, and is by far the worse way to think about boxing in general. If the judges were more careful and accurate, Pacquiao would have lost his last fight against Marquez. But he didn’t, he won the fight, and there is absolutely nothing that will ever be done about that.

I assume that the only way for Manny to secure another fight against Marquez is to complain, and try to skew the opinions of the average boxing fans in his favor. No doubt that the majority of Filipinos believe that Marquez simply got lucky, and maybe with global support from the boxing community, including those form Mexico, the fifth fight might be considered.

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Disaster: Manny Pacquiao Knocked Out… Relax Everyone, Not Much Changes In Boxing

I had to wait out the media storm after the Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez IV before writing this article, primarily because after an outcome like that, emotions take over while the voice of reason sits on the sidelines.

First of all, let me tell you what I think about the outcome of the fight:

I know that this is boxing, and that every punch counts. Oh and also I picked Marquez to win the fight. As a matter of fact, the morning of the fight day, I told a good friend of mine that I have a strong feeling that Marquez would end this fight early in a devastating fashion. He certainly did. Having said all that, with one second remaining in the round, no matter what anyone says, this was not only tremendous skill in play, but also incredibly lucky timing. The fight was starting to boil, and both fighters were getting more aggressive and energetic. Neither man was dominating before Manny walked into Marquez’s right hand. So while I am happy about the outcome, as it was not only entertaining but generally good for boxing, I would approve of Pacquiao vs. Marquez V.

I know, you all must think I am completely out of my mind, but I would find it hard to believe that most people out there would not want to see these two in the ring again. After all, isn’t boxing about entertaining the fans? About putting together fighters who are equally matched and can have the crowd on their feet? Aren’t Marquez and Pacquiao that very combination?

Towards the middle of the fight, as both fighters switched into the next gear, Pacquiao did what he does best as the fights get into the middle rounds: got sloppy. His lopsided punches, his weird lateral jumping, and his lack of technicality would be, I’m sorry to bring this up now, taken advantage of by Floyd Mayweather Jr. from bell to bell. Thus, Manny is nowhere near being ready for a quicker and more accurate counter-puncher than Marquez.

Still, Manny is a powerhouse, a freight train that never stops. If only a fraction of his punches reach their destination, damage will be done. When after the fight people started saying that Manny is finished, and that he should no longer be in the running against Floyd, well that only showed their lack of knowledge about boxing.

No, Pacquiao is not done, is not in any way less of a fighter, and is certainly still on the very top as far as future fights are concerned. Getting knocked out, is bad, but losing a fight via a UD is far worse for a fighter like Manny. He got caught, and he went down. It was clearly a very hard punch that Manny did not expect or see, and it landed flush. Most boxers would suffer the same fate in such a scenario, and that’s that. This doesn’t dictate Manny’s abilities in the ring, and should not be the driving force behind his next fight.

As far as Marquez is concerned, he is a technical genius as always, and he more than deserved this win. He fought for it, and he got it in the most phenomenal way anyone could imagine: landing a power punch at 2:59, sending the invincible Pacquiao to the canvas face first. Never count out Marquez, and I think that after knocking him down, Manny might have done just that.

The leverage of camp Pacquiao is now lost at sea, and Marquez is the man with the final say. Hey, don’t be surprised to hear that Mayweather Jr. vs. Marquez II is on the horizon, I certainly wouldn’t be.

Congratulations to camp Marquez for their much needed victory! I am hoping to see Dinamita give us a few more exhilarating nights of boxing, and I will always be a true fan of his.

To team Pacquiao: Some boxing experts say that the most valuable thing in a champion’s career is a loss. My fists were clinched and my heart beating out of my chest when I noticed that Manny was not moving after the 10-count. We all know that boxers have suffered terrible things after being knocked out, death not excluded. I was more than relieved to see that Pacman was responsive and smiling after he was brought back to his feet, and I am thankful for him and his family that they are healthy and together. A true warrior, Pacquiao is nowhere near done, and mark my words on this page; we are yet to see Pacquiao add more KO victories to his resume.


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